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Jim, Steve, Mike, Andrew, etc.<div><br></div><div>With regard to the twin-bay hopper model that Steve asked about, not only is the&nbsp;</div><div>lettering incorrect, but also the length. The Grande cars are 30&#39; - 2&quot; inside body</div><div>length and 33&#39; 5&quot; to the inside pulling face of the couplers.</div><div><br></div><div>The Rio Grande Western had two series of these cars built by Pressed Steel Car</div><div>Co. &nbsp;The first series, RGW 1202 - 1226 (25 cars) &nbsp;were constructed 10-1929.</div><div>These are the cars that had the fish-belly side sills and the lower side &amp; end sheets.</div><div>Level capacity is shown as 1337 cubic feet. &nbsp;Sides were 5&#39; 3&quot; from top of side sill</div><div>to top of car. &nbsp;These became D&amp;RGW 18200 - 18223 &nbsp;(24 cars)</div><div><br></div><div>The second series, RGW 1227 - 1276 (50 cars) are shown as constructed 10-1900.</div><div>These have the straight side sills and the side sheets are 6&#39; 6&quot;. &nbsp;Level capacity is</div><div>shown as 1696 cubic feet. &nbsp;These became D&amp;RGW 18224 - 18271 (48 cars)</div><div><br></div><div>Both series of cars were rebuilt by the D&amp;RGW in 1926. &nbsp;January 21, 1927 equipment&nbsp;</div><div>summery shows&nbsp;<span style="word-spacing:normal;">only &nbsp;69 cars of the original 75 still in revenue service.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">April 1942 show 6 cars converted to covered hoppers. &nbsp;These are renumbered 18300</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">thru 18305. &nbsp;They are converted for the purpose of hauling<span style="text-decoration:underline;font-weight:bold;"> Arsenic Dust </span>from Utah.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">New # &nbsp; &nbsp; Old #</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18300 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18230</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18301 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18243</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18301 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18247</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18303 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18248</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18304 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18250</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18305 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18255</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">In Sept. 1943 an additional 10 cars renumbered 18306 - 18315 are converted to&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">covered hoppers or 16 cars total. &nbsp; (unfortunately I have been unable to find some&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">of my notes specifically&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">the AFE,s and Completion Reports for this set of conversions&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">at the moment) &nbsp;Note however, that none of the original 25 cars (18200-18223) were</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">used for the covered hopper conversions.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">The series remained unchanged until 11-1946 &nbsp;into 5-1947. At that time 10 cars&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">were</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">&nbsp;selected for conversion to D&amp;RGW non-revenue sand service under AFE T-603. &nbsp;All</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">were converted at Salt Lake City.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">M of W &nbsp; &nbsp; C-H &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Old</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">X-3552 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18310 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18262</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">X-3553 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18309 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18234</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">X-3554</span> &nbsp; &nbsp; 18302 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18248</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">X-3555 </span>&nbsp; &nbsp; 18305 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18243</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">X-3556</span> &nbsp; &nbsp; 18303 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18230</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">X-3557 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18306 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18227</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">X-3558</span> &nbsp; &nbsp; 18300 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18255</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">X-3559 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18312 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18224</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">X-3560 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18308 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18257 &nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">X-3561</span> &nbsp; &nbsp; 18304 &nbsp; &nbsp; 18247</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Of the 10 cars in sand service, 5 of them were from the original 6 cars converted&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">to&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">covered hoppers. &nbsp;(missing the 18250) &nbsp;The last of the covered hoppers in M of W</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">service the &nbsp;X-3552, was retired in 11-1954 under AFE 3552 at Pueblo. &nbsp;The last</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">two&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">cars&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">of the 18300&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">thru 18315 series were removed in 7-1955. &nbsp;The last of the&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">old&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18200 -&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">18271 series was retired 8-1956.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Hope this is of interest.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">John T.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div>



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