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[DRGW] Color of the roof roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-27 15:08:36
Re: [DRGW] Color of the roof Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-27 10:29:11
Re: [DRGW] Color of the roof Roland Levin roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-27 18:44:49
Re: [DRGW] Color of the roof Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-27 15:42:45
Re: [DRGW] Color of the roof johntudek@ymail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-28 04:37:03
SV: [DRGW] Color of the roof 'Roland Levin' roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-02-28 10:41:21
Re: SV: [DRGW] Color of the roof Steven Seguine rgsteve@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 00:41:46
[DRGW] Re: Color of the roof roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 12:37:43
[DRGW] Re: Color of the roof johntudek@ymail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 19:48:30
Re: [DRGW] Re: Color of the roof Roland Levin roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 21:56:15
Re: [DRGW] Re: Color of the roof johntudek@ymail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 22:04:43
[DRGW] Re: Color of the roof Jim Allen jimp72@msn.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 22:08:27
Re: [DRGW] Re: Color of the roof Roland Levin roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-01 23:25:18
SV: [DRGW] Color of the roof 'Roland Levin' roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2018-03-09 11:31:23
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Roland,<div><br></div><div>Of all the Rio Grande cars, this series must have one of the most convoluted</div><div>histories of all. &nbsp;Nothing less than a minor miracle to have found a photo / slide</div><div>of one of the older cars.</div><div><br></div><div>Folio sheets and car records show these were 50&#39; double door Auto Boxes&nbsp;</div><div>built by Mt. Vernon Car Mfg. Co. starting in 6-1926 (200 cars total in series) &nbsp;</div><div>thru&nbsp;<span style="word-spacing:normal;">7-1927&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">(500 cars total in series) &nbsp;The records would that&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">they were&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">originally&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">numbered&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">in the&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61200 thru 61699 series. &nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">In late 1935 / early 1936, 300 of the cars were re-numbered into the </span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61400&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">thru 61699 series, leaving 199 cars in the old series. &nbsp;(first car off </span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">roster&nbsp;</span><span style="word-spacing:normal;">was&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">the 61395 wrecked 1-27-1929 on the NO&amp;NE Walters, Mass.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Then in 1937 20 cars were removed from the 61400-61699 series and renumbered</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61700 thru 61719.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">In June and July 1941, another 30 cars were removed from the 61400-61699 series</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">and placed with the 61700&#39;s making that series now 61700 thru 61749</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">As of Dec. 31 1941 tallies were:</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61200 - 61399 &nbsp; &nbsp; 188 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61400 - 61699 &nbsp; &nbsp; 249 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61700 - 61749 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 50 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Sept. thru Nov. of 1942 saw another 50 cars removed from the 61400-61699 group</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">now making a total of 100 cars in series 61700 thru 61799.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">By Dec. 1950, the three cars series are still fairly well intact with:</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61200 - 61399 &nbsp; &nbsp; 182 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61400 - 61699 &nbsp; &nbsp; 189 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61700 - 61799 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 99 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">The 1951 Freight Car Roster makes a special note that cars 61720 - 61799 are all</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">steel equipped with Loaders.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">By &nbsp;Dec. 1965 which is when the Freight Car Records cease. (at least in handy card</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">form) the rosters show the following tallies still in revenue service.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61200 - 61399 &nbsp; &nbsp; 10 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61400 - 61699 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 9 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">61700 - 61799 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4 cars</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Oddly enough the only specific mention of series 61720 thru 61749 is on Folio&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Sheet F-16. &nbsp;The painting diagram notes that 12-T is to be stenciled on the doors</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">and the class XMH on the sides. (a total of 13 cars) &nbsp;11 cars are to have 16-T on</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">the doors and the class XAR on the sides. &nbsp;Remainder of cars in series 61720 - 61799</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">are class XM.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">So,... maybe more information than you wanted but there it is.</span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></div><div><span style="word-spacing:normal;">John T.</span></div><div class="ygroups-quoted"><br><br>---In drgw@yahoogroups.c..., &lt;roland.levin@...&gt; wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-1142853143"><div>Hi John</div><div>You wrote some different series of cars. I have managed to identify all but one of them. What series of cars are 61720 to 61799? I can find&nbsp; picture of modern RBL delivered in the 70s and one very old 50&#39; boxcar with increased roof height with numbers which correspond to that series.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Roland</div><div><br></div></div></div>



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