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[DRGW] GP7 and fuel tank roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-17 19:59:47
[DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank nzntrains@yahoo.c....au [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-18 03:24:37
SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank 'Roland Levin' roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-18 09:21:43
Re: SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank Steven Seguine rgsteve@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 02:33:55
[DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank William Canelos sharronbillc@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 18:35:25
Re: [DRGW] GP7 and fuel tank Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 16:48:34
Re: [DRGW] GP7 and fuel tank Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 21:39:32
Re: [DRGW] GP7 and fuel tank Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 18:14:31
Re: [DRGW] GP7 and fuel tank dcdewitt@charter.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-20 16:56:35
[DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank William Canelos sharronbillc@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-20 15:18:32
[DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-01 12:15:20
[DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank William Canelos sharronbillc@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-02 03:01:19
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From: William Canelos sharronbillc@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2017-11-02 03:01:19
Subject: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank

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Jim,

I am wanting to say I got to Ft Carson in August 1973, hard to belie=
ve that it was 43 years ago. So it is a bit of a strain on my weary brain.=
=C2=A0 A lot of the traffic seemed to be boxcars, but I was not in the know=
about the contents.=C2=A0 Most were switched to the old style wooden wareh=
ouse buildings.=C2=A0 The largest type traffic was military vehicles of all=
types, tanks, armored personnel carriers including the Command APC's, Truc=
ks, Trailers, Tracked and wheeled artillery, jeeps, Engineer equipment, Gen=
erators etc.=C2=A0 The equipment often was new replacement types, and after=
issue to the units, the old items would go out to the various depots for r=
ebuild.=C2=A0 A good percentage of the flats were DODX flats, and there wer=
e usually strings of them on various sidings in storage. We also had a numb=
er of USAX 40 foot boxcars.=C2=A0 Some had the corrugated doors, most had p=
anel doors.=C2=A0 Some had the full US Army lettering and the Transportatio=
n Corps logo, but most did not have the logo.=C2=A0 All the boxcars still h=
ad roofwalks, and I seem to recall were mostly stored.=C2=A0 I think most b=
oxcars came in loaded and went out empty.=C2=A0 Flats and box cars could al=
so be from various Class one RR's of the day.=C2=A0 Even tho the BN merger =
had taken place it was not uncommon to see cars form the GN, NP, CB&Q.=C2=
=A0 Cars for eastern roads,& SP, Cotton Belt, UP, ATSF & DRGW or WP would a=
lso be correct. There were often the TTX Trailer Train heavy duty flats as =
well, but I cant remember the the full correct reporting marks, I want to s=
ay GTTX, but don't count on that. The Army seemed to rely more and more on =
the the Trailer Train flats as time went by. I don't recall seeing tank car=
s, or gondola cars, or hoppers, but there was the occasional Army Guard car=
. the guard cars never stayed only went in and out, usually when a unit mov=
e was taking place.=C2=A0 We did not have any caboose cars at Ft Carson.

A=
s for the locomotives, the 1860 was there from 1973 to about 1978.=C2=A0 I =
can't pin down the date the 1858 left ( but maybe late 1975) and the 1823 a=
rrived immediately after.
Operations were not always every day, and the cre=
ws did track maintenance or other maintenance when not running trains. Ther=
e was a USA marked speeder and trailer for track work. There were days when=
only one car would be hauled out to Kelker or hauled back. =C2=A0

Not su=
re how much help this has been but feel free to contact me directly at my p=
ersonal email.

Lots of good memories at Ft Carson, but many are getting f=
uzzier as the years go by.
Bill


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