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[DRGW] Key M68 'Jay Barnaby' drgw5393@att.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-04-07 18:12:33
Re: [DRGW] Key M68 'Tom Stamey' tomstamey@sbcglobal.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-04-07 18:50:20
[DRGW] Re: Key M68 Kenneth Clark kenrclark@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-04-07 22:48:47
Re: [DRGW] Re: Key M68 'Tom Stamey' tomstamey@sbcglobal.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-04-07 22:12:22
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From: 'Tom Stamey' tomstamey@sbcglobal.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2017-04-07 22:12:22
Subject: Re: [DRGW] Re: Key M68

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The m 68 does need weight added to it. When you add it and balance the wei=
ght it turns them into good pullers. After such, mine went from taking 11 =
cars us a curving 2 % to 18. The canon motor in them is a fairly fast moto=
r and re-gearing the engine from 27-1 to 37-1 makes them very, very nice ru=
nners.

Tom Stamey
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kenneth Clark kenrclark@aol.c... [DRGW]=20
To: DRGW@yahoogroups.c...=20
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:48 PM
Subject: [DRGW] Re: Key M68


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I remember seeing one of these models win the locomotive performance comp=
etition at a NMRA National convention
back in the 1980s. I guess it depends on your definition of a 'good runne=
r' I had entered a logging mallet in the=20
competition that pulled 15 NMRA freight cars up a 6% grade; but added wei=
ght, lights and paint detract from it's overall=20
score and I didn't place. The M-68 on the other hand couldn't pull itsel=
f up a 3% grade, but passenger engines only had
to climb a 2% grade in the competition.

They are a pretty model, look great painted and are better than other ear=
ly Korean Key Rio Grande models. I would=20
recommend a new gearbox, motor and flywheel, and weight for an 'operator'=
; they are pretty slippery out of the box.
Some other early Korean Key Rio Grande models have very lightweight mecha=
nisms that are trouble prone, soft side
rods, out of round holes, off center crankpins, etc... All things that w=
ere not problems with the older Japanese models.

Because there were some older Japanese Rio Grande models that have stood =
the test of time, the Korean Key models=20
are less desirable for the operator as there are alternatives



When you think outside the box,=20
You are out of the loop.

Kenneth R. Clark
P.O. Box 212454
Chula Vista, CA 91921


6a Key M68 Fri Apr 7, 2017 4:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Jay Barnaby" drgw5=
393@att.n... Are these good runners? They show up on eBay pretty often.

Jay Barnaby
Wichita, KS
drgw5393@att.n...

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The m 68 does need weight added to it.&nbs=
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guess it depends on your definition of a 'good runner'&nbsp; I had entere=
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logging mallet in the <BR>competition that pulled 15 NMRA freight cars up=
a 6%=20
grade; but added weight, lights and paint detract from it's overall <BR>s=
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and I didn't place.&nbsp; The M-68 on the other hand couldn't pull itself=
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3% grade, but passenger engines only had<BR>to climb a 2% grade in the=20
competition.<BR><BR>They are a pretty model, look great painted and are b=
etter=20
than other early Korean Key Rio Grande models.&nbsp; I would <BR>recommen=
d a=20
new gearbox, motor and flywheel, and weight for an 'operator'; they are p=
retty=20
slippery out of the box.<BR>Some other early Korean Key Rio Grande models=
have=20
very lightweight mechanisms that are trouble prone, soft side<BR>rods, ou=
t of=20
round holes, off center crankpins, etc...&nbsp; All things that were not=
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problems with the older Japanese models.<BR><BR>Because there were some o=
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Japanese Rio Grande models that have stood the test of time, the Korean K=
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models <BR>are less desirable for the operator as there are=20
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